Monday, June 09, 2008

Iran -- Is Diplomacy an Option?

I happen to agree with Ron Paul on the issue of Foreign Policy. The biggest issue we face is the decay of the Balance of Power in Washington DC. The Executive Branch is wielding new powers against foreign nations, foreign citizens, and unfortunately, United States Citizens as well. Since the nation frequently swings left and right, I feel that we should determine the limits of the Executive branch as if the most heinous President imaginable was sitting in the office. On that footing, I object to the Executive Branch being capable of enlarging or initiating any military conflict anywhere in the world ever. For me at least, this isn't particularly about how the current President has handled Foreign Policy, it's about the precedents it sets. I don't think that if we secured our borders and took a more benevolent, free trading stance, that Iran could do much other than blow smoke.

Subject: Tell Congress You Want Direct Dialogue -- Not War with Iran

DownsizeDC.org is one of about 35 organizations participating in a "National Call-In Day on Iran" that will take place tomorrow, Tuesday, June 10th.

This is a major national campaign, with press events and photo ops. Details about tomorrow's events are available at the coalition website NewIranPolicy.org.

The same people who called for attacking Iraq, based on faulty intelligence, are now raising the drumbeat for military action against Iran. Despite the November 2007 U.S. National Intelligence Estimate concluding that Iran had halted its nuclear weapons program, the Bush administration is, once again, making a case for war.

As with Iraq they are claiming that Iran is a huge threat to American security.

We believe bombing Iran would bring disastrous consequences.

  • Such an attack will increase the chance of terrorist blow-back on U.S. territory
  • The entire Middle East could descend into further violence putting the well-being of innumerable civilians at risk
  • U.S. standing in the world would plummet once again, and oil prices would likely soar
  • A U.S. attack would strengthen hardliners in Iran, and turn the Iranian people, who are now pro-American, against us
Current U.S. foreign policy is not working. Threats of military attacks and regime change, and a refusal to talk with Iran until they stop enriching uranium -- something Iran is allowed to do for peaceful purposes under international agreements -- is a prescription for heightened tensions, and worse. Such a policy could lead to full-scale war, and as we know, "War is the health of the State" -- the ultimate Big Government program.

We want you to take two actions - one today; one tomorrow . . .

First, go to DownsizeDC.org and send a message asking for Congressional action to prevent an un-authorized attack on Iran by President Bush.

Then, join thousands of individuals from our coalition partners and call your Congressional Representatives on Tuesday, June 10th. Our coalition has created a telephone number specifically for this purpose -- 1-800-788-9372

Tomorrow, when you make your phone call, tell members of Congress that . . .

  • We need direct, comprehensive talks, without preconditions, between the U.S. and Iran
  • The U.S. and Iran share common interests in a stable Iraq and Afghanistan
  • The U.S. pursued successful negotiations with North Korea and Libya, and it's time to talk with Iran too
Tell your Congressional leaders that you want dialogue -- not war!

So, please send a message today using our online system.


Then, please participate in the "National Call-In Day for Dialogue with Iran" tomorrow, Tuesday, June 10th. This campaign will be sponsored by a coalition group of which DownsizeDC.org is a member: The Campaign for a New American Policy on Iran.

This is a huge coalition, so you won't be alone when sending your message and making your phone call. Numbers Matter. God tends to be on the side of the bigger battalions. This is your chance to be on the side of a bigger battalion. And we thank you for being a part of our growing Downsize DC army.


So here's what I told my Congresspeople --

Please pass legislation denying President Bush the authority to attack Iran.

My personal comment to you:

Use the proper Constitutional Checks and Balances to prevent the Executive Branch from leading this country further into war. If there is a nation that is a clear and present danger to this nation and to the world, then declare war Constitutionally so that we may take the full force of our nation into the conflict.

It is not acceptable to allow the Executive branch to take this nation's armed forces into conflict under any other context, including United Nations resolutions.

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5 Comments:

OpenID infidelsarecool.com said...

"attack Iran" hahaha, like we're the aggressors. It's only the entire region at stake. Oh yea and also a fanatic Islamic totalitarian regime acquiring nuclear weapons too. oh yea and this terrorist sponsoring regime who funds, trains, supplies Hezbollah, Hamas, Syria and other terrorist organizations could be one day supplying them with something greater.

Here's a memo: They're KILLING AMERICANS IN IRAQ. They're funding and supplying the insurgency and they're directly responsible for much involvement in Iraq. How many Quds forces have we killed or caught? several. How many IRG have we caught or killed? Many...

We won't talk to them because there is no negotiation with a religious fanatic. They will do nothing but con and lie to you. Ever heard of "Taqiyya"? It's an Islamic term that refers to the sanctioning of lies to promote the ISlamic agenda. That's exactly what you'll get if you sit down and have tea with Khomenei or Ahmadinejad. Your utopian dreams for peace are false, misguided and irresponsible.

Think about it for a second. History has repeated itself over and over and liberals keep repeating the same failed policies and behaviours of the past. When will they learn. I must quote my favorite speech of Ronald Reagan. It's inspiring and clear.

"Freedom has never been so fragile so close to slipping from our grasp as it is this moment. Our Democratic opponents seem unwilling to debate these issues. Those who would trade our freedom for the soup kitchen of the welfare state have told us they have a Utopian solution of peace without victory, they call their policy "accommodation". And they say if we'll only avoid any direct confrontation with the enemy he'll forget his evil ways and learn to love us. All who oppose them are indicted as war mongers. By committing an immorality so great as saying to a billion human beings now you can give up your dreams of freedom because to save our own skins we're willing to make a deal with your slave masters. Alexander Hamiltion said a nation which can prefer disgrace to danger, is prepared for a master, and deserves one.

Now lets set the record straight...
There's no argument over the choice between peace and war. But there's only one guarantee you can have peace and you can have it in the next second...surrender.

Admittedly there's a risk in any course we follow other than this but every lesson of history tells us that the greater risk lies in appeasement. And this is the specter our well meaning liberal friends refuse to face, that their policy of accommodation is appeasement. And it gives no choice between peace and war, only between fight or surrender, If we continue to accommodate, continue to back and retreat, eventually we have to face the final demand, the ultimatum... and what then?

He has told them that we are retreating under the pressure of the war, and some day when it comes time to deliver the final ultimatum our surrender will be voluntary because by that time we will have been weakened from within morally, spiritually and economically. He believes this because from our side he's heard voices pleading for peace at any price, or as one commentator put it, "he'd rather live on his knees than die on his feet". And therein lies the road to war, because those voices don't speak for the rest of us. You and I know and do not believe that life is so dear and peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery.

If nothing in life is worth dying for, then when did this begin? Just in the face of this enemy? Or should Moses should have told the children of Israel to live in slavery under the Pharoes? Should Christ have refused the cross? Should the patriots at Concord Bridge have thrown down their guns and refused to fire the "shot heard round the world"? The martyrs of history were not fools, and our honored dead who gave their lives to stop the advance of the Nazi's didn't die in vain.

Where then is the road to peace? Well it's a simple answer after all. You and I have the courage to say to our enemies there is a price we will not pay there is a point beyond which they must not advance. And in destroying, they would destroy that which represents the ideas that you and I hold dear. This is the meaning, in the phrase of Barry Goldwater, "peace through strength". Winston Churchill said the destiny of man is not measured by material computations. When great forces are on the move in the world, we learn we're spirits not animals, and he said there's something going on in time and space and beyond time and space which, whether we like it or not, spells duty. You and I have a rendesvouz with destiny. We'll preserve for our children this the last best hope of man on earth, or we'll sentence them to take the last step into a thousand years of darkness."

3:16 AM  
Anonymous St. Michael Traveler said...

Iranians had suffered devastations in the hands of hordes of Mongols, crazy Alexander of Macedonia, fanatic Arabs and others over their history.

Do we want our name to be on the same list as Genghis Khan for our brutality by attacking Iran? Have we not inflicted enough damage on Iranian people since 1940? Iraq should be our last war of aggression.

It does not make any difference who starts the attack on Iran, USA or Israel. We are just proxy for Israel.
http://straveler-myamerica.blogspot.com/

10:55 AM  
OpenID infidelsarecool.com said...

Iran is about to face a reckoning, and
they were foolish to believe they could interfere
in Iraq with impunity forever. They are sending
their sneak-attack cowards across the border to
kill coalition soldiers. They've been sending
weapons in to Iraq, explosives, and all the while
crossing their fingers that we will be too tied up
in Iraq and Afghanistan to do anything about it.
Mahmoud made a serious mistake. I doubt he will
think it has been worth it when all of these
high-tech nuclear facilities are lying in ruin,
after wasting so much of Iran's GDP on them.

Remember the story about Iran's ridiculous claims
of a super-torpedo that will demolish all of our
ships? And their recent war-games testing their
Sunburn anti ship missiles? It's all for show,
because they are shitting themselves as our Navy
is massing in the gulf. There will be no ground
invasion. It will be air strikes. From Israel and
from the gulf. Cruise missiles and stealth
bombers. And Iran will not even attempt to
scramble their airforce. Their jets will be hidden
under camo tents just like Saddam's were. Israel
can destroy their entire airforce with ease in a
day. So could we.

The Naval blockade is going to cut Iran's supply
of fuel off. They export crude oil, but have no
refineries. When their fuel doesn't get through,
the country rapidly grinds to a halt.

If by some miracle they do enough damage to
Israel, then Israel will just deploying some of
their tactical nukes. They have come close before,
when it becomes evident that they are in danger of
being overrun, and their options are to either
fight back or die, they will use the bomb.

Iran can send every tank they've got. Israel has
nuclear land-mines. Iran's best chance is to
appeal to the UN and the IAEA, and beg them to
send in representatives to audit these nuclear
facilities.

8:48 PM  
Anonymous St. Michael Traveler said...

Iran must learn we are in charge!
You are not kidding!

Israel has nuclear bombs, and we gave them nuclear capable airplanes to use the bombs. By the way, we helped Israel to put 200 of the nukes together. Israel is our only friend.

And, you are right! We have very bad things, and we know how to use them. We used them against Japan. We used it against Iraq. Boy did our nukes kill a lot of those Japanese people. We will do it again.

Iran and the rest of the world better learn soon, we mean business!

By the way, what is this idea that we have a bad economy, expensive college loans, few professional jobs, and crumpling infrastructure?

Forget about it! We have to worry about Iran; you know they are working on nuclear fuel cycle to make electricity. What do they want electricity for?

My great grandparents used what they had to heat their home, light their house after dark, the good old fashioned way. Why do Iranians want to be like us now? It was good for my great grandparents; it must be good for Iranians now.

Last, we must not talk to these Iranians; Israelis have told us not to do it. Plus, our great President Bush wants to revisit the 1953 regime change and put in place someone like the old Shah. We told him what we expected of him. He knew what we wanted, and he did it. No questions asked.


With Israel as a friend who would need an enemy. God help our beautiful USA.

For a different way to look at this world, please read: American Foreign Policy and the World: a New Direction
http://straveler-myamerica.blogspot.com/2008/05/american-foreign-policy-and-world-new.html

8:40 AM  
Blogger Jeremy D. Young said...

Infidels, I glanced at your blog. I'm not certain that you're taking into account the last 100 years of history very well. Ever since British explorers hit oil in 1908 in Iran, the west has been carving up the Middle East as if they were empty lands for their oil.

We've been the aggressors and instigators of conflict, regime change, and "management" of their oil supply ever since it was discovered.

If we don't want Iran to kill Americans, then maybe we should leave Iraq to the Iraqis. Problem is that there isn't a strong Iraqi people because they're basically three peoples in an arbitrary country that the Western World created for them.

It's really not as simple as who killed who during the last few years.

Of course we can completely obliterate Iran. We don't have an extremely valid reason to do so. The civilians of that nation, who do not have any say in what their rulers do would suffer unjustly, just as the citizens in Iraq have suffered unjustly for many decades, after we put Saddam into power.

Oh and before you spout the propaganda lines about us blaming America... Get over yourself. The United States is not a land free from the shackles of sin, nor is it free from the possibility of making mistakes. It happens to be founded on the most revolutionary document ever used to form a government, the Constitution. The problem is that we've basically ignored the Constitution since 1945. The Executive Branch has far too much power, the Judicial Branch takes actions that it was never meant to take (legislation from the bench), and the Legislative Branch is too busy spending more money than we have to buy votes to do anything about either one.

We are a great nation. Less great than we used to be in some ways, but still great. We can be better though, and it will come from strong personal responsibility, and overall adherence to the Constitution.

8:49 AM  

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